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Lady Gaga’s Bra and Panties Too Much for Indonesian Muslims

Posted by Ethan Clow on May 27, 2012

It turns out that one of the most religious countries in the world isn’t very open-minded about the flamboyant Lady Gaga. Yes, Indonesia, consistently ranked as one of the most religious countries in the world, recently was the scene for a concert cancellation by the popular pop singer Lady Gaga.

She was supposed to do a concert in the capital Jakarta on June 3, 2012. However for the past month there were big concerns by the local authorities as well as her concert producers of the security threat that she would face and the potential danger that could be caused to the local area if violence occurred.

The problems began when Gaga started planning for her “Born This Way Ball” tour for the city of Jakarta, which was going to be her largest concert in Asia. Indonesian Council of Ulema (MUI) chairman Cholil Ridwan, who is a high ranking member of Indonesia’s Muslim authorities, claimed that Gaga’s concert was “intended to destroy the nation’s morality,” and compared her show to a harem.

Won’t someone think of the children?

Things got worse when M. Mahendradatta, of the Islamic Defenders Front, a hard line conservative hate group known for violent attacks, suggested that Gaga promoted Satanism and:

“She’s a vulgar singer who wears only panties and a bra when she sings and she stated she is the envoy of the devil’s child and that she will spread satanic teaching…We will stop her from setting foot on our land. She had better not dare spread her satanic faith in this country. Her style is vulgar, her sexual and indecent clothes will destroy our children’s sense of morality. She’s very dangerous.” – source

Fearing also the corruption of innocent young Indonesians, he also said:

“Whether you like it or not, Lady Gaga teaches [fans] to worship the devil,” he said. “That goes against the teachings of any religion. We don’t approve of that.” -source

This prompted the Jakarta police to consider canceling the show. They were obviously concerned that the concert could provoke violence but apparently Gaga’s wardrobe might also violate the nations laws on pornography as well. There was some communication between concert organizers and the authorities but ultimately a compromise couldn’t be reached and now, officially, the concert was cancelled.

I have to admit that I respect Gaga’s decision on this. Here’s why: She could have majorly toned down her performance (as other singers have done in order to get a concert permit) she could have not sung certain songs or worn more conservative clothing… but even if she had agreed to all these stipulations, there was no guarantee that she would have gotten approval for her concert and more importantly, she would have gotten no guarantee that there wouldn’t be violence from religious radicals anyway.

She could have stuck to her guns and gone ahead with the concert (someone getting a permit) and risked violence against herself and her fans.

She could have compromised her ethics and artistic integrity (and probably made lots of money off those tickets that nearly sold out in the first week they were available) but instead she chose not to. She’s disappointed her fans in Jakarta, but she may have prevented a disaster. She also promised to do something “special” for them via twitter.

So overall, she kept her integrity, kept her ethics, didn’t compromise the things that made her famous and wealthy for a bit more wealth… and she recognized that her impact had she gone ahead anyway could have been dangerous.

Best, she made the idiots and bullies look like idiots and bullies.

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Do We Need to Blacklist Speakers?

Posted by Ethan Clow on May 24, 2012

There were a couple of conferences this past weekend, the Imagine No Religion 2 conference in Kamloops and the Women in Secularism Conference in Washington DC. Unfortunately I couldn’t go to either of them but I’ve enjoyed hearing about them from the people who could attend.

However I heard something rather disturbing regarding the Women in Secularism conference.

During one of the talks, Jen McCreight mentioned that she was warned about male speakers at conventions behaving badly:

“I accidentally set off a lot of discussion with something I said during a panel. I say “accidentally” because I wasn’t planning on talking about this specific point, nor did I think it would result in such a reaction. I remarked that when I was about to attend my first major atheist/skeptical conference, multiple people independently sent me unsolicited advice about what male speakers to avoid at the con. The same speakers were mentioned by different individuals, with warnings that they often make unwanted and aggressive sexual advances toward young pretty women and that I should not be alone with them.”

This is not the kind of thing that fills me with hope for the skeptical freethought movement. The idea that there are well known skeptical/humanists speakers behaving in a misogynistic and/or inappropriate fashion with women speakers is deeply upsetting.

Obviously we skeptics wish to hold ourselves to a level of accountability and behaviour that sets us apart from the groups out there that we typically criticize (the Catholic Church, cults, Scientology etc)

It’s also disturbing because we are also supposed to be representing the values of humanism – a moral and ethical system based on enlightened views of society. Surely this includes treating women with respect and not harassing them?

Predictably this conversation almost immediately derailed as people started accusing Jen of having some sinister agenda or in the case of one blogger, calling her ugly.

The question is how to move forward knowing this is a problem. Stephanie Zvan at Almost Diamonds wrote a piece about what conference organizers need to do to ensure that their conventions are free of harassment. Already various groups are in the process of creating public policies on anti-harassment.

Another floating meme out there is a “blacklist” of speakers who consistently behave badly. First, does one exist and second, why hasn’t it been made public. The answer appears to be “no” and “because it doesn’t exist.” There’s no list out there that gets circulated to all the women in the free thought community about who’s a jerk. However there is an informal level of communication in which people talk behind-the-scenes about shared experiences.

The problem with that is that its behind-the-scenes and while useful to speakers, leaves the attendee’s out of the loop when it comes to their safety and enjoyment of conferences. So why not go public with this information? Surely if it’s a big deal these women should say exactly who is causing problems?

Umm, Elevator-gate anyone?

The last time a woman spoke up about something that made her uncomfortable at a conference she got rape and death threats.

Another reason why no public blacklist exists is because these behind-the-scenes talkings are informal. It would be hard for a new speaker to know what is a rumor and what actually happened. Further, they lack any hard evidence, no video of harassment, no audio, no police reports or anything that would prevent someone from being sued for liable or having their career destroyed by someone more powerful than them.

Basically one of the most effective solutions to this will be conference organizers having a firm grasp on writing a anti-harassment policy and circulating it to their speakers. The speakers need to know, going in to the conference, what will be tolerated and won’t be tolerated. They need to know that and they also need to know that breaching those terms might also put future speaking options in jeopardy because conference organizers are going to pass on information about who plays nice and who doesn’t to other groups and organizers.

Where I’m struggling is whether conferences should go public with what they learn. My concern is that say a conference wants to bring in speaker X, who is a big name will draw in lots of people. This person is very popular and appears on TV and writes books and everyone loves him. But, he also has a reputation of being a jerk to female speakers. The conference organizers can chose not to invite this person but what if the attendees start saying “why aren’t you inviting X?” What if that adversely impacts their ability to get large crowds to their conference?

Suppose some of the smaller conferences (the ones that get about 200 – 500 people out) adopt these policies, but one or more big conferences (the ones that get about 1000 – 3000 people out) don’t? My concern is that unless the attendees know why speaker X isn’t getting invited, they may just chalk it up to the idea that a particular conference can’t afford him or that maybe the conference organizers don’t like him or something.

It could be premature to start worrying about this. And could also be largely irrelevant, after all, what are our priorities here? Getting lots of people to conferences or making our conferences more safe and appealing to everyone?

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It’s a Bad Time to be a Scientist in Canada

Posted by Ethan Clow on May 24, 2012

My ability to stay politically neutral when it comes to skepticism is getting very difficult. It’s made worse when horrible decisions like this happen, if you’re a  a marine biologist in Canada, you might want to look for work elsewhere. That’s because a program called the Experimental Lakes Area, a world renown research facility in Northern Ontario is being shut down by budget cuts from the Government of Canada.

The Experimental Lakes Area, a region of 58 lakes near Kenora, Ont., that scientists have used for groundbreaking experiments and it will be shut down as a result of budget cuts by March 2013, in addition there will be about 400 layoffs in Winnipeg’s regional Fisheries and Oceans Canada office.

The closure of the ELA has provoked some harsh criticism for the government.

To quote Harvard University aquatic sciences Prof. Elsie Sunderland:

“I was pretty shocked, This is one of the foremost research projects and places to do research in the world. To have it shut down is just appalling. It’s just embarrassing.”

To quote Cynthia Gilmour, a senior scientist at the Smithsonian Environmental Research Center in Maryland:

“I was stunned, The ELA has contributed to environmental policy for 40 years, and the long-term records alone on temperature and ice cover are absolutely invaluable.”

At the ELA scientists test a verity of different environmental focused research issues. They monitor long term ecological impact of various pollutants, human impact on fresh water, and how to develop successful strategies for dealing with these dangers to fresh water and the ecosystem. The big difference between what was happening at the ELA compared to other research facilities is that the ELA is doing long running experiments, in some cases, decade long research. There isn’t another place like that in the world.

The effect that research at the ELA has had is far reaching. Before moving to Harvard, Sunderland, originally from Nova Scotia, worked for years creating policy at the United States Environmental Protection Agency. Research done at the experimental lakes on the effects of mercury on fish and waterways was discussed at the highest levels of the EPA and helped form the basis of new regulations on coal-fired power plant emissions. Those new rules became official in December.

Work on the lakes has also led to continent-wide policy shifts on acid rain, changes to the way hydro dams are built, a ban on phosphorus in detergents and huge advancements in the battle against the green algae that fouls Lake Winnipeg beaches every summer.

This summer, ELA staff and researchers from Trent University were slated to begin a new long-term project on the effects of nanoparticles, an emerging multi-billion-dollar technology, on waterways and fish.

Federal officials say the ELA no longer “aligned with the department’s mandate and is not responding to our research priorities.” Ottawa hopes a university or the provinces will take over funding the project.

“It makes more sense to allow it to be owned and operated by those who will benefit from this unique research facility,” said Erin Filliter, spokeswoman for federal Fisheries Minister Keith Ashfield.

In reality this sort of project is well out of the reach of a university.  For one, this is decade-long research, and based on how research is done at the ELA – where scientists will deliberately pollute an area and run tests on the ecosystem, would not be feasible for a university which would have to cut through a lot of bureaucratic red tape to do something like that.

Unfortunately this has fallen on deaf ears. The MP for Kenora, Conservative Greg Rickford claims he used to “brag” about the ELA but apparently the affection he once felt is gone now. He also echoed the sentiment that a university should take over the research at the ELA.

But even university departments are reacting with skepticism at this idea that a massive project like the ELA could be realistically continued by a university.

“The federal government is expecting universities to step up… It’s a very different kind of commitment to do the work that Experimental Lakes has done and continues to do. I’m not sure how we’re going to fill that void.” – John Gunn,  Director of the Vale Living with Lakes Centre at Laurentian University in Sudbury. (empathasis mine)

Okay, so this all sounds fine but I bet your saying “listen, I’m all for science but we need to be careful with money right now right? We can’t afford to go spending billions on lake science.” The annual budget for the ELA is 2 million.

To compare, the cost per year of the Harper governments new fleet of fighter jets is about 1.2 billion.

Note, the ELA apparently does tours of their facility. If you’re in the area I suggest you give them a shout and see about seeing what they do there first hand while you still can.

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Math and History United at Last

Posted by Ethan Clow on May 17, 2012

I came across this TED talk by Jean-Baptiste Michel, he’s a Founding Director of Harvard’s Cultural Observatory, where their research team pioneers the use of quantitative methods for the study of human culture, language and history. His talk is quite interesting, he suggests how you can use mathematical formula’s to understand history. This is by itself not a radical idea as its one of the central premises of Steven Pinker’s book, The Better Angels of our Nature.

And we all know there are trends in history that can be tracked mathematically, nevertheless it is an intriguing idea that the development of human civilization could follow a predictable pattern. The implication for this could be huge. Consider our interest in discovering alien civilizations. What if we could add a deeper understanding of how civilizations develop and plot what age that civilization might be in?

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Most Unbelieving Place on Earth? East Germany

Posted by Ethan Clow on May 17, 2012

Where in the world would you find the least religious people? If you said East Germany, you’d be right. Of course since East Germany doesn’t exist anymore, you’d be wrong but still, at least you tried.

No but seriously, apparently the geographic area of Eastern Germany is home to the least religious people in the world. This according to a new study out of the University of Chicago, by sociologist Tom Smith.

You can view the study in PDF here.

What sociologist Smith did was look at survey data on belief in God in 30 countries between 1991 and 2008. (Canada wasn’t included) What he discovered was that the citizens of the former German Democratic Republic have by far the highest rate of atheism at 52.1 percent. The Czech Republic is the most atheist currently existing country at 39.9 percent. They’re followed by the French (23.3 percent), the Dutch (19.7 percent), and the Swedes (19.3 percent). Japan is the country with the lowest percentage of people who say they “know god really exists and have no doubts about it.”  (4.3 percent.)

The most religious country in the survey was the Philippines, where 83.6 percent of people are sure God exists and only 0.7 percent are atheists. The United States, not surprisingly has only a 3 percent rate of atheism and 60.6 percent sure that God exists.

This study is based on The international Social Survey Program (ISSP) which asked three questions – do you believe in God (and ranked them on a 6 point scale) and has your believe in God changed over your life? And finally a ‘agree or disagree’ question about a personal God who cares about human life.

The ISSP Religion studies covered 18 countries in 1991 (counting East and West Germany and Northern Ireland and Great Britain separately), 33 countries in 1998, and 42 countries in 2008.

So this isn’t original research in that Smith devised new methods for documenting religious belief or anything like that. It’s a meta-study where he used existing information and compiled it and hypothesized on why the results came out as they did.

Another thing to consider about this study is that it doesn’t measure how secular a country is, only what the citizens in those countries believe. I think this is an important distinction. If we consider how the United States has secular wording enshrined in its founding documents we might get the assumption that it is a very secular nation, of course, as this study shows, the citizens of the United States are overwhelmingly religious.

What’s also interesting is how this data compares to what many of us have thought about previous demographics regarding religious belief. Many of assumed that the Scandinavian countries were the most atheist but Sweden is fifth on the list of general unbelief.

In general, reliable studies seem to indicated a general downward trend of worldwide religious belief, especially in the industrialized west. For example, global poll conducted by Angus Reid in 2006 found that over the past twenty or so years, religious belief has become less important, especially for Canadians and Europeans.

Sweden is interesting because religion there functions a fair bit differently than we might expect. A Gallop poll in 2009 found that only 17% of Swedes consider religion an important aspect of their lives. Despite the fact that about 70% of the population of Sweden are members of the Church of Sweden. What this would imply is that religious membership serves more as a cultural or even community service and seems to have less effect on the decisions people make.

Given the difference in polls and surveys (Phil Zuckerman writes that some figures range from 17% to 85% of Swedes might be atheists) we can probably assume some general things about religious belief for the Swedes, and since the new study by Smith doesn’t include new research we will have to take those numbers with some skepticism as its apparent that any of these figures are estimations and subject to change.

One thing that we should be curious about is why is Eastern Germany so full of atheists? One could make the argument that it’s the combined influence of National Socialism and Communist control over the area for the 60 or so years from the 30’s to the 80’s. Arguably, this is a good answer. When you combine the wartime horrors by the National Socialists (some of the worst which occurred in Eastern Europe) it could explain why a pessimism for religion fostered. And then when you add the Communist repression of religion to the mix, it actually makes perfect sense.

But researchers also suggest that many Slavic and non-Orthodox communities present in the area since the Middle Ages were nonreligious; that the secularization movements during the Weimar Republic (1918-1933) were particularly strong in the states of Thuringia and Saxony; that the resistance of most DDR dissidents to the church was not seen, unlike the way it was perceived in Catholic Poland, as specifically religiously motivated.

Meaning, the people who have lived there for thousands of years were never fully converted. Or at least, we might say never drank the kool-aid.

Another potential explanation would be the historic tug of war Catholicism and Protestantism had over Germany. To this day the country is fairly evenly split down Catholic and Protestant lines. During the Reformation, Protestantism appealed to many of the local authority figures as a way to steal power from the Catholic Church and centralize their own power base. While this process didn’t exactly help the secular humanism angle, it did in a way help by breaking down the imperial nature of Catholicism.

By having a religion that was essentially localized to your community and nation and not beholden to a Pope in a far off place, people were able to take a more direct and active role in religion. One of the first steps in moving towards secularism is breaking that spell of subservience to a higher power. Certainly the Reformation broke that spell in relation to the subservience to Rome and the Pope.

And let’s not forget the devastation of the wars of religion that erupted because of the Reformation. Having three decades of warfare can sour you on belief in God when everywhere you look someone is waiting to kill you for not believing in their version of God.

 

 

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Catholic School Takes Their ball and Goes Home.

Posted by Ethan Clow on May 15, 2012

We here on Radio Freethinker have justly criticized Catholicism for some rather shocking, illegal or suspicious behaviour but perhaps as a first, we can criticize them for being bad sportsmen.

You would expect that baseball would be pretty far down the list of things for religious fundamentalists to get worked up over but amazingly we have this story out of Phoenix, where a young second base player has apparently stirred up controversy by having the audacity to be female.

Paige Sultzbach, who plays second base for Mesa Preparatory Academy, a high school in Phoenix, was preparing for the big game – in this case the Arizona Charter Athletic Association state championship at Phoenix College.  However, her chance never came as Mesa Preparatory Academy’s opponent for the Championship game, (the aptly named) Our Lady of Sorrows – forfeited the game. Now why on earth would they do this?

Our Lady of Sorrows is run by the U.S. branch of the Society of Saint Pius X, a group of conservative, traditionalist priests who disagree with the reforms of the Vatican II Council in the 1960s and broke with the Catholic Church in the 1980s. They take a hard line conservative opinions on most issues, including girls playing sports.

Earlier in the season, Our Lady of Sorrows played Mesa Preparatory Academy (and lost both times) but during those games Paige Sultzbach voluntarily sat out. She sat out of respect for Our Lady of Sorrow’s beliefs (and if we could take a moment to acknowledge how humble Sultzbach was in that, showing a lot more patience than many of us would) Nevertheless, she wasn’t going to sit out the championship game and everyone (expect Lady of Sorrows) seems to acknowledge that she went above and beyond the “reasonable accommodation” point.

Sorrows, has declined to comment on the situation but has issued a written statement saying their decision to back out of the game was consistent with their policy of co-ed sports.

“Our school aims to instill in our boys a profound respect for women and girls. Teaching our boys to treat ladies with deference, we choose not to place them in an athletic competition where proper boundaries can only be respected with difficulty.”

And what better way to respect women, than to treat them like delicate flowers. By separating girls and boys the way Sorrows is doing is to suggest that boys and girls are not only different, but that one is inherently more weak. Women need to be treated differently because they don’t have the stamina and heartiness of men. Of course that’s only one angle we could consider. Perhaps Sorrows believes that one of their players will hit a fly ball, attempt to steal second base and accidentally impregnate the girl.

I’d like to include a quote from Charles P. Pierce at Grantland

“Completely by accident, Paige and her teammates had found themselves caught in a dark, dank corner of reactionary Christianity, which admits no light, no warmth, only the cold, dead past, and which stinks of prejudice, decaying dogma, and the worst social offal of the 20th century. There’s not a lick of Catholic doctrine that would forbid men and women from playing baseball against each other. There is nothing in the Gospels that would remotely touch upon the situation, and not even St. Paul, that censorious old blatherskite, said anything that can be stretched plausibly to forbid it, and people have been known to use Paul’s Epistles like taffy to marshal their arguments.”

What’s also interesting is that Christians will be busy getting worked up over the latest Gay Marriage news, or something Richard Dawkins does, or if someone steals a Jesus cracker and yet we won’t see any protests or outrage over what Our Lady of Sorrow’s has done.

 

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New Agora Uncovers Terrible Link Between Autism and Vanishing Bees!

Posted by Ethan Clow on May 7, 2012

The other day I was nice indy coffee shop and I picked up the latest edition of “The New Agora” It’s one of those hip, free, indy, newspapers that circulate around Vancouver offering the news that those fatcats in the mainstream press don’t want you to know.

The website for the paper has much to say in the About section, for example:

“ All of us here working with The New Agora intend to live up to the responsibilities inherent in the work of truth tellers and truth showers.  Our hearts are demanding that we offer a larger perspective on what’s happening in the world, unbiased yet participant, balanced and personal, true and loving.

Truth must be told.  Some stories need to see the light of day.  Long ago the printed page served just such a purpose.  In this day of mass media controlled awareness it remains a potentially vital however rarified outlet for the voice of the People to be heard.

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…Cooperation is the antidote to the disease called ‘Corporation’ currently afflicting humanity with its paradigm of homicidal selfishness.”

Anyway, I have nothing against the leftist mentality described here. It’s the counter balance to the fear mongering far right and I’m sure they offer some interesting perspectives on social issues. Where I do take issue is with their rather shabby reporting on science and or skeptical issues.

The headlines that dotted the cover of the May issue of The New Agora included such gems as:

“Intelligent Energy”

“Cancer Free Life”

“Empowered Children of the Future” and “Dissolving the Matrix”.

I know, I went “What? What? What? and What??” too.

Reading through some of the articles I found myself face palming so much that I was in danger of causing severe nose and forehead cave-in-itus.

Some of the most demonstrable health fear mongering came from a contributor named Ethan Huff, this fellow Ethan however has some rather choice words for mainstream news. In one article he wrote about gardening he writes:

“Modern industrial agriculture is a disastrous failure, as it defies practically every natural law related to food cultivation…”

At least we can appreciate the hyperbole but then I saw his next article entitled “Vaccination Theory Crumbles”

Sigh.

So flipping to a different page we find this gem “Radiation Warnings you Won’t Get From Mainstream Media” (it was also typed in bold red letters in case it wasn’t scary enough) But at least this is an accurate title. You won’t get these radiation warnings from mainstream media, well maybe Fox News…

So as I was reading this article, in which they attest that radiation levels of seaweed on the west coast of Canada were contaminated with Cesium, a radioactive material. It also alleges that Canada and the US are buying radioactive seafood from Japan (for some reason) and goes on to say water samples on the west coast all show signs of unsafe radiation. In fact the article also urges readers (IN ALL CAPS) to “question the origin of ALL seafood. ” and that “rainfall and snowfall are all radiated.” As well as to not drink water from the tap as “your faucet has NOT been treated to rid it of radioactive particles.”

If that hasn’t got you sufficiently terrorized, wait to you see the next big headline:

“Autism and Disappearing Bees: A Common Denominator?”

That’s what it really said, I didn’t make that up.

The paper then takes a turn from ludicrously bad science reporting to vaguely transphobic pseudo science with an article “Are Boys Turning in to Girls Because of Man Made Chemicals?” by someone called only “Dak” Here’s a quote:

“Recently we are seeing accelerated puberty in young girls, an alarming increase in the men with extremely low sperm counts and transgender phenomenon growing at alarming pace.”

So I could go but obviously we all have better things to do with our time than wade through this garbage. But as an example of the kind of pseudo-science that exists out there for the conspiracy driven, leftist movements, this really shows that we often bemoan the crazy on the far right, but there’s just as much crazy on the far left too.

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Jesus Is Just Okay with Me – Censorship Isn’t

Posted by Ethan Clow on May 4, 2012

You may have heard about a recent kerfuffle occurring in Nova Scotia about a young student wearing a Jesus themed t-shirt. If not, here’s an article on the CBC about it.

In a nut shell, this student, one William Swinimer showed up to class with a T-shirt that read “Life is wasted without Jesus.” He was suspended by the school after he was warned not to wear the shirt, supposedly on the grounds that it was either offensive or controversial. However recently that decision was overruled and Swinimer has been allowed to return with the T-shirt. The school board went through a series of debates with the kid as well as his local religious leader and eventually decided to allow the student to return.

In addition the school will be having a facilitator come in to discuss with students how to respectfully display their beliefs or something.

When we take a few moments to consider this issue, there are lots of ways we could get offended by this. To be frank, this Swinimer kid sounds like a righteous little fundamental who needs to check his privilege. He’s made several statements regarding how persecuted Christians are in his community and how they are constantly put down in school and such. His shirt’s statements could be interpreted through the lens of “if you aren’t one of us, you’re against us” or even more dramatically “if you aren’t Christian, you should just kill yourself.”  In today’s day of student’s actually killing themselves due to bullying this seems obscenely offensive.

So I guess I would be happy to jump on the “condemn” bandwagon, I’m reminded of something I’ve often said, “no one has the right to go through life unoffended.”

I can’t just ignore my own assertions when it becomes inconvenient for me to do so. I would be a huge hypocrite to do so. Many times I’ve chastised religious people for throwing a hissy fit because someone dared to publicly disagree with them. Now, someone is publicly expressing their disagreement with my opinion… is my answer going to be censorship?

I don’t think so.

CFI Canada also has weighed in on this issue:

“While CFI sponsored the Atheist Bus Campaign, we are a strong champion of freedom of speech and freedom of religion,” said National Communications Director Justin Trottier. “This shirt causes no harm and is a perfectly acceptable contribution to the marketplace of ideas.”

and

“We have consistently defended free speech rights for groups regardless of our agreement on message, including Muslim and Christian ads in public space and censored pro-life debates on campus,” said Trottier.

Rather than suspending the kid, what are some more constructive solutions the school could have considered? Perhaps a townhall type meeting to discuss the content and public declarations of religion in a school. Alternatively the school could host a talk by a pro-secular speaker on the issues of secularism and religious discrimination of anyone not in its camp. This option might be useful if those who are upset with Swinimer and want be in a venue where they don’t have defend themselves. That may sound like a strange thing to say but if we put ourselves into the shoes of someone who is against Swinimer wearing that shirt, perhaps because of the issue of religious homophobia, stepping in front of a crowd of people to explain why could be extremely daunting and intimidating, especially if you think more than half your audience is there to argue with you. Having a venue where the person can basically say their peace without being interrupted or challenged could be a more attractive option.

Back onto the subject of why secularists should be against censorship, consider if a student had worn a pro-atheist t-shirt. Had the school reacted by suspending the student, we’d be justifiably up in arms.

Nevertheless, the thorny issue of “where is the right venue for this discussion” has been brought up many times regarding this debate. People who are both supporters and detractors are asking “is a school the appropriate place for having this debate?” I would argue there is no more appropriate place than a school. After all, is a school not where we go to learn and be challenged and explore new ideas? Wouldn’t this qualify as one of those situations? We also have the question of “shouldn’t religion belong in your home, not a public place?” That can be another difficult question. Especially because Swininmer’s shirt could be seen as proselytizing. In my opinion, since he’s a student, not a figure in authority, this wouldn’t be considered an issue of proselytizing and keeping in mind, if a student showed up with a Atheism shirt the same argument could be made that it belongs at home, not in a public school.

Some of us may get a bad taste in our mouth while defending Swininmer, especially while he and his supporters prattle on about Christians being suppressed and bullied in today’s secular age… to me the specter of censorship is a far more offensive notion.

As Voltaire probably didn’t say:

“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. “

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Math the Gateway Drug to Atheism

Posted by Ethan Clow on May 4, 2012

Are you good at math? You might be an atheist. At least in theory. I’m terrible at math and I’m an atheist.

But a new study is making the rounds these days regarding your ability to do math and whether or not your an atheists. Or to put it more accurately, how likely you are to be a non-believer. The study produced out of UBC by Psychologist Will Gervais, the author of the study about trusting atheists which we discussed in a previous episode.

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This new study which Gervais conducted with fellow psychologist Ara Norenzayan, posed some analytical math questions to subjects. The hypothesis was that people who answered with more analytical answers, opposed to more innate and intuitively which would predict a religious believer.
example:

If a baseball and bat cost $110, and the bat costs $100 more than the ball, how much does the ball cost?

The wrong answer — the one you come up with when you don’t put any thought into it or simply go with your gut, which is what I would do, so don’t feel bad. — would be $10.

The right answer — which requires a bit of analysis — would be $5. (The bat costs $105.)

The study has certainly caught the public’s attention with numerous write up in science blogs and newspapers.

The study, which looked at 179 Canadian undergraduate students, showed that people who tend to solve problems more analytically also tended to be religious disbelievers. This was demonstrated by giving the students a series of questions like the one above and then scoring them on the basis of whether they used intuition or analytic logic to reach the answers. Afterward, the researchers surveyed the students on whether or not they held religious beliefs. The results showed that the intuitive thinkers were much more likely to believe in religion.

Now being good skeptics, what do we have here? Correlation but do we have causation? Turns out we do.

To test for a causal relationship between analytical thinking and religious disbelief, the researchers devised four different ways to promote analytic thinking and then surveyed the students to see if their religious disbelief had increased by the interventions that boosted critical thinking.

Basically they tried to see if they could prime subjects for analytical thinking which would then increase the subjects disbelief. Subjects would be shown various images which previous psychological studies had shown a connection to increasing performance on analytical problems. Sort of like the way listening to classical music or certain kinds of art can prime the viewer to behave a certain way.

Subconscious suggestions about thinking apparently gets the cognitive juices flowing and suppresses intuitive processes. The researchers confirmed this effect but also found that the self-reported religious disbelief also increased compared with subjects shown a different image before being tested that did not suggest critical thinking.

The same result was found after boosting critical reasoning in three other ways known to stimulate logical reasoning and improve performance on reasoning tests. This included having subjects rearrange jumbles of words into a meaningful phrase, for example. When the list of words connoted thought (for example, “think, reason, analyze, ponder, rational,” as opposed to control lists like “hammer, shoes, jump, retrace, brown”), manipulating the thought-provoking words improved performance on a subsequent analytic thinking task and also increased religious disbelief significantly.

So okay, what about all the non-believers like me out there who are saying “hold on, I suck at math” Of course the thing is, math is only one area where one can be analytical. As I’m sure we can all agree, sitting down and thinking rationally about a topic, math, history, science, art… that will stimulate the cognitive juices and this effect of decreasing religious belief would be seen as well, regardless of the field of study.

What’s also interesting about this, especially with all the press its getting, is the reaction from various religious groups and people. I saw one interview where the religious proponent suggested this wasn’t an issue of science vs religion because science can only answer questions of what is, compared to religion which provides a moral compass to civilization. Not surprisingly I rather disagree with that assessment.

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Show notes for Episode 155

Posted by Ethan Clow on March 3, 2012

Radio Freethinker Episode 155 – The Witch Hunter Edition;

This week Heartland climate scandal, open mindedness, and an interview with Leo Igwe on Witch Hunting in Africa
(sorry of the delay folks)

Download the episode here!

Skeptical News:

Switzerland plans to clean up space

Fresh scandal embroils U.S. climate science debate

A discussion and deconstruction of the double standard in the mass media’s approach to ‘climate scandals’ as seen in the different way the Heartland Institute Scandal and the Dr. Glieck Affair were handled by both the press and the participants.

If you open your mind too much…

A discussion inspired by the Tim Minchin lyric “if you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out” and just how open minded skeptics should be.

Topics:

Don has a serious discussion with Leo Igwe, Nigerian Skeptic and former representative for South and Western Africa on the International Humanist and Ethical Union. We talked about the rise of witch hunters in Africa and how this new insurgency has its origin in modern Christian/Muslim missionaries from North America.

Learn more about Leo Igwe:
International Humanist and Ethical Union
Institute for Ethics and Emerging Technologies
Philosopedia

Learn more about Helen Ukpabio:
“End Of The Wicked”
Pharyngula – Witch-hunter Ukpabio spreads her poison here
New York Timers – Nigerian Witch-Hunter Explains Herself

Skeptical Highlights:

Gapminder

Gapminder is a non-profit venture – a modern “museum” on the Internet – promoting sustainable global development and achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goals.

The initial activity was to pursue the development of the Trendalyzer software. Trendalyzer sought to unveil the beauty of statistical time series by converting boring numbers into enjoyable, animated and interactive graphics.

It is available online or as a download for free at gapminder.org. They a large selection of data sets from a variety of sources, also for free access.

The intention of gapminder is to a “fact tank” that promotes a fact based world view.

http://www.gapminder.org

Do you believe in atheists? Distrust and anti-atheist prejudice

The UBC Freethinkers Club is proud to sponsor a lecture by prominent Ph.D. candidate, Will Gervais. His most recent work into distrust of atheists has been covered in many major newspapers and has received much prominent attention! We’ve snagged him for an afternoon to let us know: why *do* people mistrust atheists?

Thursday, March 22, 2012 – 7:00pm – BUCH A101

COST: FREE for UBC Freethinkers Club members/ $2 for non-members

LOCATION: BUCH A101 (bit.ly/yUgxZS)

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