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All You Need is Love (and Skepticism)

Posted by Ethan Clow on April 11, 2013

A few weeks ago, CFI Transnational, along with several other large skeptic/atheist organizations, released a statement calling for civility in online discussion and vigorous use of the principle of charity.

“The instantaneous and impersonal nature of online communication also makes it much easier for these misunderstandings to escalate, or for civil arguments to turn into bitter fights.”

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“Insults, slurs, expressions of hatred, and threats undermine our shared values of open and candid discussion because they move us away from an exchange of views supported with reasons.”

Translated, this means “stop being so damn belligerent online and for the sake of the flying spaghetti monster, assume that the person you’re mad at wasn’t trying to be dunder-head and instead of being mad, take a moment and give them the benefit of the doubt!”

It’s an entirely reasonable position to take. You may have noticed that the skeptic community has a tendency to be a bit prickly at times. Arguments of scope or tone or even interpretation of claims – has and continues – to cause divides and occasionally deep rifts. This could be because the “movement” seems to communicate with itself primarily online, which leaves much to be desired in terms of optimal communication. It’s a lot easier to rage at someone on a blog or Facebook or twitter then it is to their face.

Not to long ago, there was a recent debate on the nature of skepticism between Steve Novella and PZ Myers, two fellows who have a lot to say on the subject. Their back and forth conversation spawned several blog posts, hundreds of comments, and most likely long ripples throughout the community. One point that came up was this concept of charity. Basically, the goal here is to try really hard to give someone the benefit of the doubt, don’t assume the worse about them or their argument. You can take this further by giving whatever they’re saying the best chance to be heard and considered. When someone makes an argument, examine it under its best circumstances.

To quote Steven Novella:

“Before you set out to criticize someone’s claim or position, you should endeavor to grant that position its best possible case. Don’t assume the worst about your opponent, assume the best. Give them any benefit of the doubt. At the very least this will avoid creating a straw man to attack, or opening yourself up to charges that you are being unfair.

To give you an example of this, suppose you are arguing about capital punishment, and your opponent gives you scenario that’s unlikely or rare – don’t slap it away (at least at first) your position will ultimately be strengthened if you can argue against their “best case” scenario. Decide to talk about the so-called slam dunk case, like Hitler. You have a criminal who has admitted their guilt. Lots of evidence, lots of witnesses, literally zero chance this person was innocent. Under these circumstances, discuss why capital punishment would be wrong.

While the principle of charity and a willingness to be civil are both great concepts, we must also be skeptical about the overall tone of the message delivered by the skeptical orgs, in addition to the content and meaning. There should be a clear difference from tolerating a disagreeable argument to accepting that there are “two sides” to the issue of sexism in the skeptic movement. Skepchick’s Rebecca Watson wrote a response to the open letter that’s worth reading.

There are two problems I see with such call for civility:

  1. Phrasing the request in terms of a debate i.e “The Debate over Sexism and Feminism” There is no “debate” over sexism. Sexism is bad. It exists. It has to stop. I realize there aren’t people debating that sexism is good, but disturbingly, there are people saying that sexism doesn’t happen and responding with frothing rage at the mere suggestion that it does. Phrasing this like a “debate” is an insult to debates. Historians don’t call Holocaust Denial a debate, scientists don’t call conspiracy theories debates – those examples are just small vocal groups screaming at reasonable people.
  2. As a matter of principle, the skeptic/freethought/atheist community should get along… except for those times when we shouldn’t. I’ve long been a advocate for co-operation in the movement. Atheist, skeptic, humanist, feminist, whatever you call yourself – your welcome at my event. That being said, if an atheist shows up who thinks that climate change is a big conspiracy by Al Gore, or your a skeptic who thinks that history is bullshit, or a humanist who doesn’t like Doctor Who… you’re going to hear about it from me. And that’s not to say I’m going to yell at you and call you names, but if you’re wrong about something, I’m going to say so. Likewise, if an organization does something that is wrong, they should be called out on it.

There are obvious examples where we are not going to give someone the benefit of the doubt. Harassment, death threats, etc; we are not going to sit down and have a conversation over. And lets be intellectually honest with ourselves… most of the bullshit like name calling, harassment, threats, are coming from only side in the whole “sexism debate” and its not the feminists. (And those are ironic quotation marks, by the way)

However I think that there is something to be said for trying private diplomacy were applicable. To use a real example, the situation between Harriet Hall (the Skep-Doc) and Surly Amy, looked irreconcilable, however after some of the emotion died down, they were able to mend fences. Direct communication, without an audience, can lead to promising results. Honestly, I’ve been saying it for so long I’m starting to sound like a broken record: But there are many methods for achieving our goals. Some methods will work well with situation A, but sometimes you’ll have situation B which will require a different method. This applies as much to skeptical activism as it does to group dynamics.

Doing a podcast like Radio Freethinker works for me. It might not work for others. That doesn’t mean I’m right and they’re wrong. CFI’s organization and structure works well for me. That doesn’t mean it will work well for you. If it doesn’t, that doesn’t imply that there is anything wrong with CFI or for that matter, you or me.

Different methods for different situations for different people.

Sometimes a phone call or email to an individual is warranted.

“Hey, what did you mean by that statement you made about X? It sounded rather dismissive, and given that I know you know how much work I put into this, it caught me a little off guard.” As oppose to posting a rant on Facebook or writing a blistering blog post.

Sometimes a phone call is not the right thing to do.

“Hey, I got that rape and death threat you sent me. U mad?”

So look, lets all get along. And when we don’t, lets take a few minutes to figure out the best way of responding. Let’s call out bull shit when we see it and be aggressive and confrontational – when we see that it’s the right call.

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Battling the Anti-Vaccination Movement

Posted by Ethan Clow on March 20, 2013

It’s been a busy month for skeptical activists in Vancouver. I wanted to write about some of the recent news regarding an anti-vaccination conference that was held at the Simon Fraser University, here in Vancouver.

The anti-vaccination conference was organized by this group: the Vaccine Resistance Movement. When we learned of it, myself and the volunteers at the Centre for Inquiry Vancouver decided to put together an open letter to the president of SFU, Andrew Petter.

We then canvased for signatures from those within CFI but also medical and scientific experts at UBC and SFU who could add their credentials to the letter. We were impressed by how many were willing to sign it. Once the letter was complete, we sent it to the president, and published a press release regarding the conference and letter.

Additionally, the department of health sciences at SFU also issued a strongly worded letter regarding the anti-vaccination group speaking at SFU.

Once news of this started to spread, the story went viral (no pun intended) and I did a number of interviews with the press regarding this issue.

The story appeared in print in The Province newspaper “SFU urged to block anti-vaccine gathering

I was also on CBC Radio On The Coast to discuss the issue, as well as CBC News, which did a great job covering the story.

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Additionally Global BC covered the story, as well I appeared on Sun Media, on the CKNW radio station, BCIT’s radio station, French CBC, and another CBC news story. In short, there was a lot of media interest for this story.

Given all this, I wanted to take some time to discuss some of the finer points of concern we had with SFU renting space to the anti-vaccine group, as well as some of the remarks concerning free speech and academic freedom.

We’ve discussed some of this at length. You can check out recent episodes of Radio Freethinker for more details, including a blog post Don wrote about free speech.

Our Concerns

The motivation behind everything we did was our concern that the anti-vaccination movement is dangerous. This is the reason we felt it inappropriate that SFU was renting space to them, this was why we felt it inappropriate to let this event happen without raising our concerns to local media, and this is why we felt it necessary to reach out to the scientific community.

I don’t think I need to convince many readers here of the dangers of the anti-vaccination movement. We are, after all, talking about a medical invention that has saved millions (if not billions) of lives and helped to eradicate dangerous infectious diseases and forms one of the foundational pillars of public health the world over.

Since SFU is a prestigious university with a reputation for science, education and higher learning, their approval of the anti-vaccine conference can lend tacit approval of their message. Essentially, giving space can be seen as SFU saying “these ideas have merit”.

It should come as no surprise that we at CFI took issue with that. There is the added danger that while a scientifically literate person would rightly chalk up the claims made by the anti-vax movement as ludicrous or conspiracy theories of the extreme level. But for a person with no prior scientific background to hear about a conference being held at SFU, they could naturally assume that SFU at least considers these ideas valid and when they see these ideas presented in a university setting, with supposed experts giving talks, it could very easily appear to have the markings of truth.

Vancouver recently had outbreaks of pertussis (whooping cough) and outbreaks of measles has occurred in the Fraser valley. Measles, whooping cough and other infectious diseases have seen outbreaks across North American and several have been located in Canada.

In order for herd immunity to be effective (the process by which a large number of people who are immunized protect those who can’t be) needs to be around 90% for whooping cough. However, in BC, those levels are between 60 – 70% making an outbreak potentially a catastrophic public health risk.

What about free speech?

The defence of free speech was almost immediately brought up by SFU once this story began to make the rounds. Disappointingly, it was also taken up by a number of skeptics as well. Before getting into this, we need to define what free speech is and why this particular case isn’t a free speech issue.

First, the point of free speech is to protect new ideas. The whole point is allow a “free market place” of ideas. By freeing ourselves from censorship, we allow new, potentially revolutionary ideas to be explored. Is the anti-vax movement a new, revolutionary idea?

Unpopular, unpleasant, or controversial claims are protected under free speech because these ideas could spur on new innovations, social change, or improvement. Is there potential for new innovations, social change or improvement brought about by the anti-vax movement?

Free speech is important because the airing of unpopular or controversial ideas is often difficult and can cause trouble for authorities. Therefore, criticism of the government, police, universities, scientists, sports teams etc are protected.

A science controversy vs free speech?

The anti-vax movement is a series of lies or what I call a “manufactured controversy.” Initially, under the guise of science, concerns about the safety of vaccines were brought to light. It turns out that the claims about vaccine safety were unfounded. Worse, the evidence for these claims was revealed to be fraudulent. There were conflict of interests that cast serious doubts into the motives of the people involved. In short, there were no grounds for a scientific controversy.

In the same sense there are no grounds for a scientific controversy over evolution, a flat earth or climate change.

However, through lies, fraudulent research and ethically dubious methods, a controversy was presented to the public built on foundations of misinformation.

Science, unlike other arenas of public discourse, is not a free democracy of ideas. Something is true or it isn’t. Gravity exists or it doesn’t. You evolved or you didn’t. Vaccines work or they don’t work.

Unlike other social issues where there is often two sides of a problem, science isn’t structured this way. There are not two sides to the theory of gravity for example.

The term “academic freedom” has been used in the past by creationists trying to teach creationism and/or remove the teaching of evolution in public classrooms. This tactic relies on the misunderstanding that science is like other issues where there are two sides and to not air all opinions amounts to censorship. Of course this view ignores the fact that its unethical to present incorrect information as though it were true.

Censorship

Censorship occurs when free speech is stifled or suppressed. For example, if the Harper government were to have me arrested for speaking about climate change, or revoke resources from scientists for speaking out about climate change.

However there are certain circumstances were we except censorship. The often used example is shouting “fire!” in a crowded theatre. And yes, that’s actually happened. In Canada, we also have hate speech laws that restrict what you can say (these laws are controversial obviously, but important to point out as they set legal precedent)

Most of us are willing to accept some limitations on free speech that directly contributes to public harm. If you think about it logically, some restrictions make sense, phoning up 911 for chit-chat, yelling fire in a crowded area, bullying, harassment etc.

However, the anti-vaccination moment, in my opinion, does not fall into the category of censorship of speech at all. And in fact, we weren’t calling on them to be “censored” anyway.

Keeping in mind what I wrote about scientific controversies vs manufactured controversies, we can see how the anti-vaccination movement is making claims. Specific, testable, claims about vaccines and public health. In much the same way that Health Canada of the FDA would prevent drug companies from lying about what their medications can cure, so to should the anti-vaccation movement be limited in the medical claims they can make.

No one would deny that its important cigarette companies are prevented from lying and saying smoking will make you healthy or that fast food companies are prevented from lying about the health benefits of burgers and fries.

If I started telling people that drinking paint would cure cancer, should I not be held responsible for my opinions? Should there not be consequences for lying to the public and endangering public health?

Of course, the “limitations” I’m suggesting are mitigated by the circumstances of such claims. If someone wishes to use snake oil medications, that’s their call. We don’t want to ban homoeopathy, only have honest descriptions of what the product is.

With the case of the anti-vaccination movement, using SFU as a venue is a similar situation. SFU is like the bottle the snake oil comes in. It provides the legitimacy and the veneer of scientific credibility. And this is why we were so disappointed and concerned. Had SFU reviewed the request for a room booking and decided (on the grounds I listed above, that this is presenting a manufactured medical controversy and is unethical) to turn down the group, we would have no issue.

Why Not Protest

Some people asked us why we weren’t protesting this event as we’ve done for other pseudoscience events like when Deepak Chopra came to Vancouver.

In our experience of doing this sort of “protest” we’ve learned a few things as to what factors can make them successful. And in this case, it doesn’t look like such a “protest” would work.

Choice of venue is really important for such an event. Since the venue is inside the university, we would immediately be shown out once we start annoying the attendees. We’d only be allowed on the sidewalk, which is far away from the entrance and people would just walk around us.

Given that they had extra security there, we expected they would be looking for trouble. Also, the anti-vaccination people can be a very hostile bunch and its likely loud aggressive arguments would break out. This actually happened to me the last time I was at an anti-vaccination event.

The other problem is confronting attendees with counter information will likely only entrench them deeper in their conspiracies. Generally speaking, the goal of such a protest would be to encourage critical thinking in fence sitters, people who haven’t made up their minds. Yet, the people likely to be attending this conference don’t fall into this demographic.

Any such protest needs to be carefully planned with a strict understanding of what the goals and objectives are. In this particular case, we really couldn’t guarantee any of our objectives would be met, and if anything, we might just hurt our cause in the process.

Conclusion

Overall I’m very happy with the way things turned out. There was some concern that we would be giving the anti-vaccination movement free publicity but after watching and listening to media that covered the event, I realize that they did an excellent job of showcasing the harm of the anti-vax community.

I think that shining a light on the dangers of pseudo science is a major objective for the skeptic community. If more people are made aware of the potential harm that anti-vaccination propaganda can do, they might be a little safer.

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Radio Freethinker Live and Fundraising!

Posted by Ethan Clow on March 1, 2013

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We at Radio Freethinker are pleased to announce the start of the annual Fundrive at CiTR 101.9FM!! Yes, its that time of the year where we ask you to donate on behalf of the radio station that makes our show possible. CiTR is the campus-community radio station located at UBC from which we are able to produce a live skeptical radio show and create a podcast that oh so many of you know and love. CiTR is also the home base from which Radio Freethinker is syndicated throughout Canada in places like Lethbridge, Kamloops, and Winnipeg!

Oh and did I mention that next week (Tuesday March 5th) we will be doing our show live from location at the Vancouver Convention Centre! We’ll be there discussing all the reasons you should donated to CiTR and also the interviewing interesting people at the Study and Go Abroad convention happening at the same time. So if you’re in the area, come on by and say hello!

We’ve mentioned before why an institution like CiTR is important so in a nut shell:

“CiTR is an independent radio station, meaning it’s not commercial. You won’t hear advertisements for beer or viagra on this station. What you will hear is psa’s and ads for community events, cultural celebrations, musical and artistic endeavors and causes and non-profits.

When you consider the value of having independent media that isn’t owned by a conglomerate, a small donation to CiTR seems like an easy decision!

For us skeptics we should keep in mind that often times independent media is frequently in bed with alternative medicine, conspiracy theories and pseudo science.  It’s all the more important than that Radio Freethinker do its part to help out so that stations like CiTR realize just how many skeptics out there appreciate them giving their valuable air space to us to freethink about.”

Radio Freethinker has its own specific donation page on the CiTR Fundrive network located HERE. This makes donating online surprisingly easy, go ahead and try it! We should remind you though, that if you donate online you will get a tax receipt, so if you have your eye on cool swag, you need to phone in. (Government’s rules or something)

How you Can Donate:

Donations can be made in-person at CiTR Radio offices. We accept Visa, MasterCard, Personal Cheque, Money Order & Cash, and Direct Deposit. You can also send a cheque payable to UBC with “CiTR Fundrive” in the memo, to the following address:

CiTR Radio
#233-6138 SUB Blvd.
Vancouver, BC
V6T 1Z1

Call 604-822-8648 (UBC-UNIT) to donate over the phone and on the air to your favourite show!

As I mentioned you can donate online HERE.

Here is some of the cool swag you can get from CiTR!

What you get for donating to Radio Freethinker!

As always, we have some great swag unique to our show that we will happily say “Thank you!” with.

Any donation over $20 will receive some cool skeptic themed stickers!

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Any donation over $30 a cheque book full of blank $1,000,000.00 !!! (Okay not real million dollar cheques. They’re promotional items to commemorate the Million Dollar Challenge by the JREF)

One Million Dollars! (Not really)

One Million Dollars! (Not really)

Any donation over $70 will receive a collection of Skeptical Inquirer and Free Inquiry Magazines!

Any donation over $80 will receive a JREF or CFI Extraordinary Claims t-shirt (size XL)

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Any donation over $101.09 will receive a TAM DVD Set! the Choices are TAM 5.5 or TAM 7

Any donation of or over $250 will earn the donor a chance to come on Radio Freethinker and host a show!

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IMPORTANT NOTE – Prize packs are limited 1 per donation (you can’t donate $ and get all the prizes) However if you want to donate $ but only want the sticker for example, we can accommodate that. Also please note that we have limited quantities of prizes! So it’s first donate/first serve.

One final note, we know that asking for donations of $100 is no trivial thing. Even $30 is a lot. But the reason we ask is because we are confident and proud of the programming that we (not just Radio Freethinker) produces. CiTR gives a voice to a community that simply isn’t served by commercial radio. Further, we’re aware of the generosity within the Skeptical Community and we’re asking for some right now. If you’ve listened to our show or downloaded the podcast, please consider donating because without that source of funding, we wouldn’t be able to produce any on-air content and certainly no podcast. Help us if you can. This money goes a long way.

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Seth MacFarlane is One of Ours

Posted by Ethan Clow on February 26, 2013

If you’ve been anywhere near social media these last few days, you know the Oscars happened on Sunday. And you also probably know they were terrible.

Sadly, or I guess goodly, I missed the Oscars. I was out all evening Sunday, however I did pvr the Academy Awards to watch when I got home. But when I attempted to sit and watch the award show gala, I was so put off by the terribleness, I just couldn’t sit through it. The overwhelming badness of the show was caused by two problems. One was that my pvr did a horrible job recording, it was skipping and choppy and made it awful. The second reason was the terrible hosting of Seth MacFarlane.

Seth MacFarlane, is the creator of Family Guy and American Dad cartoons for Fox. Their pretty juvenile shows, sort of like South Park but without the satire. I admit to being a fan when it first came out but its sort of lost its vibe.

So the question of course is where did MacFarlane go wrong? The big strike against him seems to be offensive nature of his jokes. Unlike, say Ricky Gervais, who essentially roasted the attendees when he hosted the Golden Globes, MacFarlane decided to rely on some crass stereotypes for his humour.

Of course, even if no one cared about mean stereotypes, MacFarlane’s attempts at humour were lacking. At one point he asked Daniel Day Lewis if he had tried to free Don Cheadle because he was “so in character as Lincoln.”

There was polite laughter from the audience but few others are laughing. There have been a series of negative reviews of the award show, most calling out MacFarlane for his misogynistic jokes and racial stereotypes that he trodded out.

So he’s another bad comedian. Big deal right? Well I’m sorry to do this to you, skeptic community… but Seth MacFarlane is one of ours.

One of the characters on his show, which he voices, is a fan of Hitchens and Bill Maher and is also an outspoken atheist. And he’s mentioned how that character has sort of become his “voice” both metaphorically and literally on Family Guy.

In fact in 2011 MacFarlane received the Harvard Humanist of the Year award, obviously put on by the Harvard Humanist association.

MacFarlane also announced that he was was teaming up with Neil deGrasse Tyson and Ann Druyan (Carl Sagan’s widow) to produce a new version of Cosmos for Fox.

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So… the same guy who sung a song at the Oscars about movies that female actresses in the audience showed their boobs in, is producing the next version of Cosmos….

So all this is to say, Seth MacFarlane is or will soon be a house hold name when it comes to the free-thought community. And since he’s a good deal more famous than pretty much any “celebrity” in the skeptic community, there’s a good chance this guy could become the face of our movement in the near future.

Sigh.

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The Proud Tradition of Popes Resigning

Posted by Ethan Clow on February 11, 2013

News broke that Pope Benedict “I look like Emperor Palpatine” the XVI aka Joseph Ratzinger has resigned as Pope. Ratzinger sighted advanced age as one of the reasons for his resignation,

“However, in today’s world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to govern the bark of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognize my incapacity to adequately fulfil the ministry entrusted to me.”

So no worries. The Pope didn’t suddenly get an attack of the conscience for the decades of child abuse he covered up or the horrible polices the Vatican has been promoting in Africa like condoms spreading HIV.

In fact, Ratzinger is joining a proud tradition of Popes throughout history who have quit. Five Pope’s have resigned over history and an additional four more are “said” to have resigned but the history books are less clear on them. Let’s take a look at the quitters now.

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First we have Pope Pontian who wore the hat from July 230 to September 235 CE. Little is known of this fellow, and we have only a few sources of his life to go by, however in a nut shell, this Pope found himself in the ire of Roman Emperor Maximinus Thrax who decided to have Pontian and his rival Hippolytus of Rome sent to the “unhealthy island of Sardinia.” Pontain resigned to prevent a power struggle in the papacy during his captivity. He died in the mines of Sardinia.

 

Next comes Pope Marcellinus who also was Pope during the reign of an Roman Emperor who wasn’t a fan of Christianity. It is believed that his papacy was from June 296 to April 304. There is some debate as to what happened to Marcellinus, did he resign? Was he martyred? Did he renounce his faith to save himself? What we can say for sure is that at some point during Emperor Diocletian’s reign, Marcellinus said “bugger this…I’m out.”Marcellinus

Next in our list is Pope Liberius, (May of 352 to September of 366 CE) who is only postulated to have resigned. Since digging through pages of obscure Catholic pseudo history is boring. I’m going to just agree.

The last of the historically mysterious Popes is John XVIII. The story for this guy is that he was basically installed as Pope by powerful Crescentii family, who ruled Rome from about 950 to 1012 CE. John actually poped from Pisa and apparently got tired to being bossed around and died as a monk in 1009. Way to keep your dignity dude.

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BenedictusIXPope Benedict IX. Boy was this guy fun. He was Pope multiple times from October 1032 to July 1048. Installed by his dad who was super rich and well connected, Benedict IX was known for being the youngest Pope at 18 years old (maybe younger) and for his wild and crazy times. He was called “a demon from hell in the disguise of a priest…” and “a disgrace to the Chair of Peter” and that he “feast[ed] on immorality” Oh and he might have been gay. So when he finally got bored of having orgies in the Vatican and potentially being a murdering rapist, his grandfather bribed/bought the Papacy from him. His grandfather became Pope Gregory VI but after resigning and the money never arrived, Benedict had a not so surprising change of heart and returned to Rome with an army. He retook the throne but was no longer recognized by organized Catholicism as being Pope.

Benedict IX leads us directly to next quitter-pope. That is, his grandpa Gregory the VI. Catholicism breathed a sigh of relief when Benedict was bought out. But as I said, that quickly didn’t last. There were actually three Popes at this time. Benedict, Gregory and this jerk Pope Sylvester III. By this time, Holy Roman Emperor Henry III had had enough of this Pope-musical chairs and came down and drove Benedict from Rome. Henry favored Gregory and Sylvester was declared “you were never Pope in the first place” and sent home. However, Gregory also was slapped on the wrist for buying the Papacy. He resigned while spluttering “what? what? but…but…but…I’m a hero!”

 

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(Gregory’s successor was Pope Clement II who poped until his death in 1047 when Benedict became Pope again. Ha.)

Next comes probably the most sensible Pope ever. Pope Celestine V. (July 1294 to December 13 1294) Known as a hermit and solitary guy, he sent the cardinals (who were trying and failing to elect a new pope) a letter warning them of dire consequences if they don’t elect someone soon. Mistaking this letter as a poorly worded resume they elected Celestine. To his credit, Celestine refused and according to Petrarch, tried to flee. One of his most important degrees as Pope was that any Pope could resign from the papacy, which he did five months into his reign as Pope. For some reason, his successor, Pope Boniface VIII (aka the pope that Dante put in hell in his Divine Comedy) had him imprisoned and may have murdered him.

And now the (previously) last Pope to resign. Pope Gregory XII. Gregory XII was elected pope during the Western Schism. In a nut shell, this schism was mostly about location. Prior to Gregory XII, Gregory the XI was a Pope at Avignon in France, however he moved the papacy back to Rome. This created a kerfuffle. Remember that guy Boniface the VIII? Well because of his wars with European monarchs, the cardinals elected a French Pope, who refused to move to Rome, choosing to stay at Avignon. This allowed France to essentially control the papacy for about 68 years. Anyway, along comes Gregory XI who wants to head back to Rome. So another Pope was declared in Avignon. So when Gregory the XI dies, his successor Gregory the XII has the following conditions, he must resign if the Avignon Pope also resigns; thus ending the schism.

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Eventually, that’s what happened. Once both rival popes had resigned and any other upstart popes had been declared anti-popes, the church unified, elected Pope Martin V.

Bonus “almost” resignations include Pope Pius VII who before traveling to Paris to crown Napoleon emperor, left instruction that if he was held prisoner he was to be considered ‘resigned.’  It’s also claimed that Pope Pius XII had a similar condition that if he was captured by the Nazis, he was also defacto resigned. And apparently Pope John Paul II also had left instructions that if he had an incurable disease “that would prevent him from exercising the apostolic ministry” or in case of a “severe and prolonged impairment” that would have kept him from being the pope.

So. Fear not, Ratzinger. Your legacy as a quitter, while not as spectacular as some of your predecessors, is secured in a time honed tradition of disgraceful people quitting a disgraceful position.

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The Secular Battleground of British Columbia

Posted by Ethan Clow on February 6, 2013

The once comforting assertion that secularism was in no real danger because most people in BC held the “meh” opinion is quickly fading. What we’re seeing is that because so many people in BC held apathetic thoughts about secularism and religion, the sneaky power brokers with theocratic leanings have managed to quietly worm their way into policy making positions.

This puts us, the apathetic citizens of this province in an interesting position. Sure, we aren’t bombarded with pro-life billboards and pro-religious demonstrations and in-your-face proselytizing… but with our laissez faire attitude to religion, we have ceded the debate to those dedicated enough to work behind the scenes to advance their agenda.

This “meh” attitude does little to help us understand the issue of secularism because we’re basically extending the Vancouver feeling of apathy to the rest of the province, which is a mistake.

Recently we’ve seen the outcome of such thinking. News has been made over the question of distributing Gideon Bibles in Chilliwack. Additionally, the BC Humanists have started a petition to get the Chilliwack school board to stop distributing the bibles. (If you haven’t signed the petition yet, do so! Currently there are 252 signatures)

I was in Chilliwack not too long ago, a local MP was holding a town hall meeting on faith and secularism which was aptly titled “Beyond Secularism” We discussed this on the show in Episode 193. The panel was moderated by Gwen O’Mahony, and the panel itself featured three Christian apologists. I was there with some representatives of CFI Vancouver and we pointed out, you have a panel called “beyond secularism” with a poster that features five or six religious symbols, yet you have no one representing a secular point of view on the panel and the only religion you have represented is Christianity.

Going into that discussion, I was a little nervous, thinking that we would be in hostile territory and we would probably be run out of town. But I was surprised by the number of people who got up to provide strident defences of secularism. (Including an Arch Bishop for the Russian Orthodox Church, who gave a passionate statement about the importance of secular politics.)

Perhaps this is demonstrating that we are starting to wake the population up to the importance of secular activism. This is in no small part to the hard work of organizations like the BC Humanists, CFI Vancouver and the other skeptical activists across the province like CFI Okanagan and CFI Kamloops.

Our work is far from over.

Last night several of us from CFI Vancouver went to see the Premier of BC, Christy Clark discuss the role of faith and politics. (The event was live tweeted by CFI Vancouver here)

Christy Clark

Christy Clark

The event unfolded the way I thought it would, however; Clark managed to surprise me a few times. I’ve seen cartoonishly bad characterizations of secularism before, but Clark really upped the ante this time.

Starting off on a bad foot, the organizers announced they would only take written questions. A cowardly decision in my opinion. Clark had a audience of supporters, there’s no reason she should be afraid to talk unchallenged to them. This only made her constant repetition of how she’s a heroic maverick for talking about faith and politics all the more ludicrous. Clark responds to people criticizing her for speaking about faith and politics by presenting an event where she talks on these, so call forbidden topics, and shuts down an open Q and A.

And of course the event, which was supposed to start at 5pm didn’t get going until 5:30pm.

The event was put on by City in Focus, a faith based organization concerned with the “soul of the city” as they put it.

Clark started the evening off by remarking on the strangeness of faith and politics. Talking about the negative feedback she’s gotten for publically discussing her faith and religion. And how this is indicative of the change in society. She mentioned this specifically in reference to the number of atheists in British Columbia.

They key highlights (lowlights?) that are worth pointing out include the following:

Clark believes government should spend public money on faith based organizations because those groups are the ones doing the good work in society. Helping the poor etc. (Perhaps she’s not aware of the all the good work being done by secular groups like Insite, the Vancouver Food Bank, or Unicef)

Clark also stated that the most important part of her faith is practicing it. This means going to church to be reminded on why she needs to be a good person. Yes, the whole ‘religion makes people be good and not evil.’ Perhaps someone could inform Clark that atheists and non-believers learn to be good people without religion. It’s actually totally possible.

She also remarked that it’s tragic that more people don’t go to church.

One of the irritating assumptions she frequently made throughout the evening was assuming we were all God fearing people who attended church regularly. Oh and reality TV is bad. Damn meanies.

All of this is ironic because she admits that political discourse isn’t polite either. So it’s nice to know that we as a population are being held to higher standards than our politicians. (Who then draft policy to correct our so-called bad behavior)

When she got to question time, she remarked how she was surprised there was no open Q and A. (FAIL!)

Most of the questions were softballs lobed at her and she took her time knocking them around. A few interesting points that came out include:

Secularism is bad because some religious groups do nice things. (I’m paraphrasing there)

I was floored when she started talking about her plans for hospital proselytizing. She wants to make is so private information about patients in hospitals can be given to religious leaders so they can come into the hospital to preach to the patients. On the surface this sounds like a nice gesture but let’s deconstruct this for a moment. What she is saying is that if a patient is terminally ill, and stuck in a hospital bed, this persons condition should be given (how?) to local religious leaders (which ones? All of them?) Hospitals don’t do this because this is a huge invasion of privacy. Patients have rights, you see. So how does this work? Do hospitals have to ask permission first? Do they just tell churches? If someone is terminally ill do they just send out a newsletter to all the religious groups in the area “there’s another terminally ill patient in room 25″

What if the patient is a lifelong atheist who hates proselytizing? And now, in their final time on earth, they need to put with some priest coming to tell them about heaven and hell?

If a patient wants a religious person to come see them, they can tell hospital staff to call one up. Hospital staff should not be over stepping their authority and assuming a patient wants a theological lecture.

Think about the implications. What if you get some pushy religious person telling the patient to leave their estate to the church to get into heaven? No, this cannot be allowed. The current system of having the patient make the call (or requesting a call on their behalf) is the way this should work.

Just a terrible terrible idea by Clark.

Another question brought up the topic of bullying. Clark made the following statement “there are some things about bullying…you know…some things are hard to eliminate.”

Homelessness? It’s a complex problem she said. She also told a story about how she made a friend who was homeless.

When she was asked about making decisions based on the Bible she responded by acknowledging that the Bible contradicted itself. “It’s not static” She replied. “It’s a teaching document.” It’s a debateable thing.

I have to agree. I remember when I was trying to learn math in school. The formulas constantly changed, answers were never the same, sometimes 2 +2 was 5… it was fucking great.

No but seriously. The bible is a horrible teaching tool. It’s not ‘not static. It’s dogma. It hasn’t changed in a long time. What has changed is the mental gymnastics you go through to justify how in one part of the bible where it tells you to stone your son for disobeying you (Deuteronomy 13:5-10) what it really means is that families are nice.

To wrap things up, she did say a few good things. On the subject of genetically modified foods, she noted that humans have been doing this for 10000 years already. She’s right about that. She also said she supports same sex marriage (but doesn’t want to make religious people uncomfortable)

Our Premier Ladies and Gentlemen!
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Imagine No Religion 3 – May 17 to 19 2013

Posted by Ethan Clow on January 9, 2013

Hey all, just a heads up that the Imagine No Religion 3 Conference is coming up on May 17th in Kamloops!

INR3 is put on by the good folks at the Kamloops Centre for Inquiry. I went to the first INR conference and I had a great time. You might have heard some of our awesome interviews we recorded while at the conference. This year they have an impressive line up of speakers including: Dan Dennett, Victor Stenger, Louise Antony and Cristina Rad among others.

Check out this promotional video they put out for the conference:

You can register here, and I’d recommend doing it soon so you take advantage of the early bird rates! Hope to see you there!

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Here’s a Picture of the Pope Blessing Uganda “Kill the Gays” Bill Proponent

Posted by Ethan Clow on December 14, 2012

Here’s a picture of the Pope blessing Uganda’s Speaker of Parliament Rebecca Kadaga who is also a “Kill the Gays” bill proponent, which she is trying to force through Uganda’s parliament.

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Sick to your stomach yet?

In more hopeful news, it appears that the “Kill the gays” bill has been delayed until February 4th, 2013. More time to bring as much pressure on Uganda (and the fucking Pope) to stop this.

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When Dogma Kills

Posted by Ethan Clow on November 26, 2012

Here’s a sad example of the harm of religious dogma. By now you’ve probably heard of the death of Savita Halappanavar. We discussed this story on Radio Freethinker last week.

Savita was dentist who lived in Galway, Ireland and was 17 weeks pregnant, she went to the hospital after experiencing back pains, she was found to be miscarrying. After some time in agonizing pain, she asked for the pregnancy to be terminated,  she was refused because quote “because the foetal heartbeat was still present and they were told, “this is a Catholic country”.”

She had to suffer through 2 and a half more days of agony until the fetus died and was removed. Savita was then moved to high intensity care, where she later died of septicaemia.

What moves this beyond the realm of terrible tragedy is the statements from Savita’s husband, Praveen, who said that when they learned that the baby was dying as a result of the miscarriage and after being informed that there was nothing they could do to save the baby, Savita asked for an abortion. But the hospital staff refused, saying the baby would die naturally within a few hours.

But that’s not what happened, instead the trauma continued for days. Even when Savita became critically ill, the staff still refused to abort the pregnancy.

Because of Ireland’s anti-abortion laws, two lives were lost and a family was destroyed.

Not only is abortion illegal in Ireland, it’s illegal for doctors to tell patients about their abortion options in other countries, it’s also illegal for people to travel to another country for an abortion. The only way an abortion is legal in Ireland is if it’s necessary to save the mother’s life. However the wording of the laws have been kept intentionally vague to prevent doctors from administering abortions.

Despite the fact that in 2010 European Court of Human Rights judgment demanded Ireland clarify the status of abortion in Irish law.

The abortion laws in Ireland are directly tied to the nation being a stalwart “Catholic” and “Christian” nation. The regressive views of the Catholic church on abortion have been well documented in the past so we don’t need to spend too much time rehashing them. The implications of these abortion laws is a demonstrable affront on the autonomy of women in Ireland and access to medical treatment that the rest of the population enjoys. It should also be noted that the hospital was in fact, a Catholic hospital.

Getting back to the situation in Ireland, Savita’s death has sparked international outrage and protests in Dublin. One Indian newspaper went so far as to suggest that the hospital murdered Savita.

Large protests, occurring twice over the span of 3 days in Dublin have reignited the debate over abortion and according to some reports, have pushed the public opinion to having a more liberal view of abortion. Seeking to address international criticism, Ireland announced its fact-finding investigation would be led by Sir Sabaratnam Arulkumaran, a Sri Lankan-born expert on maternal care who is head of obstetrics and gynecology at St. George’s Hospital in London

However, the reality is that any review could take months, and the Irish government is in no hurry to address its antiquated laws on abortion.

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Remembering Paul Kurtz 1925-2012

Posted by Ethan Clow on October 22, 2012

Yesterday I got the news of the passing of one of the founders of the modern skeptical and humanist movements. Paul Kurtz, who was instrumental in not only in leading the freethought movement, but of creating it, passed away on the 20th. He was 86.

Paul Kurtz was an impressive man. He was a renown philosopher who basically created much of the literature on secular humanism, his writing as an academic is considered to be some of the most important work ever written on the subject of secular humanism. The concept of humanism in general, which Kurtz wrote the most about, was in many ways modernized by him. He stripped out the superstition, the religious rhetoric and created a truly secular frame work to build an ethical and moral system of which our movement relies upon today.

One of the quotes I’ve heard recently that I rather like is that Kurtz was a feared name by religious apologists when names like Dawkins or Hitchens were unknown.

The Centre for Inquiry Transnational has a nice obituary for Kurtz up and I encourage you to check it out.

Kurtz was personally responsible for the founding of several important organizations over the years, including the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal, known as CSICOP (currently known as the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry) the Council for Democratic and Secular Humanism (currently known as the Council for Secular Humanism) and the Center for Inquiry.

Kurtz was also the founder of the free thought magazine Free Inquiry. He was also the founder of Prometheus Books, a publishing company that was the main supplier of humanist and skeptic literature long before the internet. Later in life, he founded the Institute for Science and Human Values.

I only met Kurtz a handful of times. The first time was at a CFI conference in Toronto. I remember it well, there was a pseudo-anthropologist giving a talk about how the Out-of-Africa theory of human migration was wrong; obviously a rather extreme claim given the amount of evidence that supports that theory. In addition, this fellow was also asserting that human culture was about 10,000 years older than mainstream science would have us believe. During the Q and A, Kurtz stood up and basically said “how can you say that the out of Africa theory is wrong given all the evidence that theory has?” Only he said it with more force and yes, even a little bit of derision. It was pretty cool.

When I introduced myself he was very friendly and told me how important skeptical activism was how he was happy to see me at the conference.

My next few encounters weren’t as fun. Shortly after that conference in Toronto, Kurtz left CFI under frustrating circumstances (for everyone involved) CFI appointed Ron Lindsay as CEO of CFI and Kurtz was asked to take on the role of Chair Emeritus for the three organizations of CFI, CSI, and CSH. However; on May 18, 2010 Kurtz resigned. What followed was something of a war of words between Kurtz and Lindsay, and it got pretty ugly at the time.

When I attended the CFI leadership conference in Amherst, which occurred in the middle of all this, there was palpable tension in the air. When Kurtz showed up, people held their breath in trepidation. Fortunately there weren’t any scenes and everything was okay. And at that conference Kurtz was his usual friendly self, I saw him talking with the student leaders, offering encouragement and thanking them for coming to the conference.

It was at the Secular Humanism Conference in Los Angeles that I attended where Kurtz and Lindsay had a public confrontation. In front of a crowded audience, Kurtz and Lindsay argued over the removal of Kurtz from his positions at CFI all the while the audience members groaned and booed. The panel, which included James Randi, Jennifer Michael Hecht and others, walked off the stage and Randi left the room. It was just a horrible moment and I sat there shaking my head.

During this difficult period Kurtz wrote articles attacking CFI and its direction under Lindsay and it seemed that Kurtz’ legacy was going to be rather depressing.

However, the next TAM that I attended, I was amazed by what I saw (no pun intended) It seemed that Kurtz and Lindsay had buried the hatchet. I saw them talking cordially and apparently they even shook hands.

Looking back on Kurtz and his impact on the skeptic/humanist movement, I hope all his work and accomplishments overshadow the brief time of difficulty he had with his removal from CFI. It’s important to keep in mind that everything that he did accomplish, he did in a time before the internet, he didn’t have the benefit of podcasts and blogs.

His efforts will be remembered and he will be missed.

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